i need to vent!

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Post 1 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Sunday, 24-Apr-2005 16:08:34

this morning, my mom told me we were going to church, and seeing as im not a christian, i told her i didnt want to go. she didnt care, so i went just cause i was told to. when the congregation greeted one another saying peace be with you, i felt wierd. i dont fit in there, and i dont want to do it again! any advice?

Post 2 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Sunday, 24-Apr-2005 16:14:00

Hm, I can understand you. My grandma forced you earlier. Why does she force you anyway? What about talking to her about it? Not just before she goes there, but just tell her how you feel about it? I mean - I couldn't tell my grandma that I don't believe in god, she'd be disappointed with me, but before I got forced to going to church, I'd rather tell her.

Post 3 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 24-Apr-2005 16:29:06

How come she made you go today and has never done before?

Post 4 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 24-Apr-2005 16:33:24

Right I see in your profile you're nearly 18, you need to either leave home, or baricade yourself in a room and refuse to go next Sunday. You're mothers behaviour is clearly apauling and shows that she is unfit to be a parent. If you are unable to look after yourself, you need to try to find a relative who isn't as screwed up as your mother seems to be and ask them to look after you until you are able to look after yourself. You need to resist your mothers cruel religious aggression. Stand up for what you believe, don't let her convert you, resist what ever the consequences and the level of suffering you may experience. In fact, perhaps if you can get yourself in an advantageous position, save your mother. While she believes you need to be saved from Satan, she clearly needs to be saved from her own self and lack of sanity.

Post 5 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Sunday, 24-Apr-2005 17:38:28

Well this is one possibility. It depends on how you get on usually with your mum. If you and her get on well, I'd talk with her about it.

Post 6 by clarice_starling (Account disabled) on Sunday, 24-Apr-2005 19:43:00

Hey, The Waynderful Wangel, I guess ur exageratin. i mean, its pretty natural for a girl to live still with her parents... and it doesnt mean she can't look after herself. She dont need to find a relative LESS SCREWED UP, thats her mother and i dont see y she should find somebody else. The only thing she has to do is tell her how she feels bout goin to church... but man, ease off!!!

Post 7 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 4:40:08

Exactly, I agree.

Post 8 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 5:33:22

I wasn't criticising her level of independence, I don't know what that is so I told her what I thought she should do if her life skills wheren't that good. As for her mother, I think that just telling her won't be enough. She may not accept that Love For All isn't a Christian and doesn't wish to go to church. Remember, she made her go yesterday, she didn't ask her. Now this is why, Love For All needs to apply as much resistance as is possible and if her mother won't accept her beliefs, it's probably in her best interests if she finds somewhere else to live, either with sommeone else or by herself. Either that or she's going to have to demand that her mother accepts her beliefs and put herself ina position where she can call all the shots and make sure her mother doesn't shove Christianity down her throat.

Post 9 by sugarbaby (The voice of reason) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 9:12:35

I'm interested to know why your mother suddenly decided to make you go to church. Or is this something that has happened before, or has your mother perhaps recently converted to christianity?

It is difficult when certain members of a family have different beliefs to others - especially if it is a parent who has the strong beliefs and has the attitude that a child living in their house should, if not conform to those beliefs, at least go to church while that child is living in the parents' house.

When I was at boarding school we were made to go to church whether we wanted to or not. I resented it deeply and haven't been to church since I left school..

I guess the best thing for you to do would be to talk to your mother, tell her that you're not a child any more, and that you don't feel comfortable going to a place where you don't share the beliefs of the congrigation. If you are on good terms with your mother, I would point out to her that you do respect her beliefs, and that you realize that she has strong beliefs, but that no amount forcing you to go to chucrh is going to make you become a christian.

good luck

Post 10 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 12:41:33

you could try some reverse psychology...

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borrow some outrageous gear, preferably carrying a Marilyn Manson logo, and waltz off to church with your gran. When she complains tell her "each time you force me to accompany you to church, I will dress this way, it's your choice, either you accept my atheism or you live with continued public humiliation"

Post 11 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 13:59:13

That's a good idea Goblin.

Post 12 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Monday, 25-Apr-2005 14:33:33

I would only do this if talking to her wasn't of any use, but basically this is a good idea.

Post 13 by Goblin (I have proven to myself and the world that I need mental help) on Tuesday, 26-Apr-2005 9:19:19

It worked for me when a very conservative relative was trying to steer me away from the evils of heavy metal music namely britain's stunning IRON MAIDEN..at 15 I adored them and still do.So your woman arrived all dressed up for church,I waltzed into the living room wearing
a black Number of the Beast t-shirt, black pvc bondage trousers, a pink fishnet top,eyeliner, eyeshadow,lipstick and gothic jewellery:she was not amused..we left for church where I proceeded to camp it up,I was more camp than butlins,needless to say this backfired and my aunt tried even harder,so I in turn became more outrageous,and eventually she gave up in disgust...

Post 14 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Tuesday, 26-Apr-2005 15:37:05

Yeah, good one, lol!

Post 15 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 01-May-2005 11:22:50

Hi Love For All, I was wondering if you've had any more problems with your mother about the issue you complained about last Sunday. I hope everything has sorted itself out but if it hasn't, you still have my support and I'm sure the support of many others.

Post 16 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Sunday, 01-May-2005 13:02:45

Exactly.

Post 17 by chelslicious (like it or not, I'm gonna say what I mean. all the time.) on Friday, 06-May-2005 17:19:00

it hasn't been sorted out, but i cant wait till i turn 18, thats all i gotta say! then, ill be able to have a say in weather or not i wanna go to church.

Post 18 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 08-May-2005 10:01:55

No. YOu don't have to wait until you're 18, you just don't go refuse to let her take you, try to get out of there completely if you can, and if she makes you go somewhere against your will, then retalliate by making her do something against her will such as financially rewarding you or something. YOu definitely needn't wait until your 18, I wouldn't, and if my parents wanted me to go somewhere I didn't want to go or if anyone else did before I turned 18, I simply didn't go. Noone can make you go where you don't want to, and if they resort to using force, that's an act of physical aggression which should be punnished as well. Don't give up, don't give in to this religious pressure, in fact, if she puts pressure on you to follow her way of living then respond by doing the same to her. Resistance always wins when it is applied to maximum effect, and I know that from experience.

Post 19 by Senior (I've now got the bronze prolific poster award! now going for the silver award!) on Sunday, 08-May-2005 10:02:06

No. YOu don't have to wait until you're 18, you just don't go refuse to let her take you, try to get out of there completely if you can, and if she makes you go somewhere against your will, then retalliate by making her do something against her will such as financially rewarding you or something. YOu definitely needn't wait until your 18, I wouldn't, and if my parents wanted me to go somewhere I didn't want to go or if anyone else did before I turned 18, I simply didn't go. Noone can make you go where you don't want to, and if they resort to using force, that's an act of physical aggression which should be punnished as well. Don't give up, don't give in to this religious pressure, in fact, if she puts pressure on you to follow her way of living then respond by doing the same to her. Resistance always wins when it is applied to maximum effect, and I know that from experience.

Post 20 by Inesle1987 (Account disabled) on Sunday, 08-May-2005 16:31:42

I agree.